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Ant

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Nov 12, 2022, 10:30:09 AM11/12/22
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1. How can my iPhone 12 mini still do emergency calls in rural areas
with no cellular service with top SOS status bar icon?

2. Is there a way to have subalbums/folders inside the main albums.
Also, is there a way to password protect specific albums (not the
default hidden album)?

Thank you for reading and hopefully answering soon. :)
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Nov 12, 2022, 10:43:59 AM11/12/22
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In article <QcWcneHdC8RhJvL-...@earthlink.com>, Ant
<a...@zimage.comANT> wrote:

> 1. How can my iPhone 12 mini still do emergency calls in rural areas
> with no cellular service with top SOS status bar icon?

it can't. the sos indicator means no active cellular plan.

emergency services can be called without an active plan. previously,
the status bar said no service, which is misleading since emergency
calls can still be made.

if you don't have cellular service (and don't have an iphone 14 with
satellite sos), then scream really loud.

> 2. Is there a way to have subalbums/folders inside the main albums.

for songs, yes. photos, no.

> Also, is there a way to password protect specific albums (not the
> default hidden album)?

only with a third party app.

Ant

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Nov 12, 2022, 10:53:43 AM11/12/22
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Thank you for the quick answers. :)
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/me salutes to vet(eran)s after a mostly quiet their holiday eve. Outside was crazy this mawny. Another reason to avoid the crowds. "Do not love the world or anything in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For everything in the world ??? the cravings of sinful man, the lust of his eyes and the boasting of what he has and does ??? comes not from the Father but from the world." --1 John 2:15-16. Dang annual outdoor termites' nuptial flights, aches, leaks, sneezes, etc. :( Should I update to iOS v16 finally?

Andy Burnelli

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Nov 12, 2022, 2:02:22 PM11/12/22
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nospam wrote:

> if you don't have cellular service (and don't have an iphone 14 with
> satellite sos), then scream really loud.

There are apps, at least on the Android side of the fence, which we've
covered in detail in the past for backwoods hiking, that emit audible tones
of your choosing whenever you enter & exit areas of no or low cell service.

They're also visible but the reason they're audible is you're assumed to be
hiking or otherwise preoccupied so your phone will be safely in a pocket.

If Apple allows similar utilities on the iPhone, you can use them to
instantly notify you as you enter & exit areas of no cellular service.

>> 2. Is there a way to have subalbums/folders inside the main albums.
>
> for songs, yes. photos, no.

On Android, you'd just copy the desired files into any folder you like.
Can iOS not do something that trivially simple and yet rather useful?

>
>> Also, is there a way to password protect specific albums (not the
>> default hidden album)?
>
> only with a third party app.

Most of the world uses free Veracrypt containers to encrypt folders.
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nospam

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Nov 12, 2022, 2:14:24 PM11/12/22
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In article <tkoqjs$tgj$1...@gioia.aioe.org>, Andy Burnelli
<sp...@nospam.com> wrote:

> > if you don't have cellular service (and don't have an iphone 14 with
> > satellite sos), then scream really loud.
>
> There are apps, at least on the Android side of the fence, which we've
> covered in detail in the past for backwoods hiking, that emit audible tones
> of your choosing whenever you enter & exit areas of no or low cell service.

they exist for ios too.

not only that, but new apple watch ultra has a very loud siren designed
for exactly that purpose, using frequencies not heard in nature.


> >> 2. Is there a way to have subalbums/folders inside the main albums.
> >
> > for songs, yes. photos, no.
>
> On Android, you'd just copy the desired files into any folder you like.
> Can iOS not do something that trivially simple and yet rather useful?

of course it does, and can even do so automatically, without needing to
manually create and update folders. in other words, it does the grunt
work.

android is still living in the dark ages, where must do that on their
own, which is not only a hassle, but ripe for mistakes.

> Most of the world uses free Veracrypt containers to encrypt folders.

no, most of the world does not.

in fact, most of the world has no idea what that even means.

it also is entirely irrelevant to the question he asked.

recess is over. it's time for you to go back to the playroom.

Andy Burnelli

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Nov 12, 2022, 2:31:05 PM11/12/22
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nospam wrote:

>>> if you don't have cellular service (and don't have an iphone 14 with
>>> satellite sos), then scream really loud.
>>
>> There are apps, at least on the Android side of the fence, which we've
>> covered in detail in the past for backwoods hiking, that emit audible tones
>> of your choosing whenever you enter & exit areas of no or low cell service.
>
> they exist for ios too.

Hi nospam,

It's good to see you post as an adult for once, where our goal is to help
Ant in determining what to put on the iOS device to warn of service loss.

Let's see how long you can remain an adult in this conversation, shall we?

> not only that, but new apple watch ultra has a very loud siren designed
> for exactly that purpose, using frequencies not heard in nature.

Does Ant have such a watch?

>>>> 2. Is there a way to have subalbums/folders inside the main albums.
>>>
>>> for songs, yes. photos, no.
>>
>> On Android, you'd just copy the desired files into any folder you like.
>> Can iOS not do something that trivially simple and yet rather useful?
>
> of course it does, and can even do so automatically, without needing to
> manually create and update folders. in other words, it does the grunt
> work.

Didn't you just tell Ant moments prior that it won't work for photos?

> android is still living in the dark ages, where must do that on their
> own, which is not only a hassle, but ripe for mistakes.

I appreciate your dig at Android functionality, and I completely understand
why you feel so defensive about the lack of iOS functionality, but I must
remind you that your credibility on claims of iOS functionality is zero.

Hence, if you claim iOS can do something useful and you claim Android
can't, you're almost always dead wrong - so you need to provide a cite.

>> Most of the world uses free Veracrypt containers to encrypt folders.
>
> no, most of the world does not.

My advice to Ant is heartfelt, which is to add a free truecrypt/veracrypt
container so that Ant can store personal data on _any_ platform, and access
that data _without_ ever putting private personal data on the Internet.

>
> in fact, most of the world has no idea what that even means.

Whenever you get defensive about saying that nobody needs basic
functionality, it's likely because you know something about iOS not being
able to do what every other platform considers basic obvious functionality.

> it also is entirely irrelevant to the question he asked.

Isn't Ant claiming to be a "she" on this newsgroup?

> recess is over. it's time for you to go back to the playroom.

What's interesting is how afraid you iKooks are when it comes to discussing
functionality that, in this case, you apparently fear the truth coming out.
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which, in this case, is to help Ant add encrypted file containers on iOS.

sms

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Nov 12, 2022, 6:20:14 PM11/12/22
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On 11/12/2022 7:53 AM, Ant wrote:

<snip>

> Thank you for the quick answers. :)

On my unlocked iPhone Xr, without an active plan, but with a previously
active SIM installed, the SOS symbol shows up briefly upon power-up then
it goes away and just shows "1x" and the name of the carrier that it
used to be active on.

When there is no SIM card installed, the SOS symbol never shows up upon
power up, though it's still possible to call 911.

The phone has 16.2 public beta installed.

Of course if there is no cellular service at all then the phone can't
make a 911 call, but since it can use any available network the chances
are pretty good that it can make that 911 call.

On two old phones, I put in SIM cards with the no-cost (after the
initial $9.98) FreedomPop/Walmart/T-Mobile plan
<https://www.walmart.com/ip/680827893>. You need a credit card to
activate it but at least in my area they never charge you even the E911
fee. Inside my house I only get one bar of T-Mobile, but outside it works.

Andy Burnelli

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Nov 12, 2022, 8:12:40 PM11/12/22
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Ant wrote:

>>> Also, is there a way to password protect specific albums (not the
>>> default hidden album)?
>
>> only with a third party app.
>
> Thank you for the quick answers.

Hi Ant,

This free FOSS third-party app creates an encrypted container which you can
then put any files or directories into (the type of file doesn't matter).
Veracrypt <https://veracrypt.eu/en/Downloads.html>
Windows, macOS, Linux, FreeBSD & RasberryPi

Most people I know who use it generally maintain a few encrypted containers
on each platform, where they store personal information such as tax records
or medical records or, depending on your level of security, photos & docs.

On Windows, for example, the encrypted container becomes a simple disk
drive, which you can have automatically "eject" after x minutes of non use.

The advantage of container encryption is there is never a need for storing
your data onto the Internet, and no need for a phone pin or password or to
store face data or any other data on a phone just to be able to use it.
*Which slum do you live in where you feel you NEED a Face-ID gimmick?*
<https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/c/LfcV3fpA45Q/m/eFfN02qkAgAJ>

Here is VeraCrypt page for equivalent container software on mobile devices.
<https://veracrypt.eu/en/Android%20%26%20iOS%20Support.html>

*Android*
EDS <http://sovworks.com/eds/>

*iOS*
Disk Decipher: <http://disk-decipher.hekkihek.nl/>
Crypto Disks: <https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/crypto-disks-store-private/id889549308>

As you're well aware, I check all links before I post them, where
I'm not sure why the Disk Decipher link above comes up blank for me.

A search on the Apple iOS App Store shows apps of the same name apparently.
<https://apps.apple.com/az/app/disk-decipher/id516538625>
But I don't know if they're the same app recommended by Veracrypt.
<https://disk-decipher.app/>

The Android app is free while the iOS apps are not free.
This is unfortunate as you then need to protect your privacy when you
purchase the iOS apps (which isn't needed on any other platform).

Worse, as you're likely aware, Apple has been sued for tracking an immense
amount of your usage data because you are forced to use their mothership
account to obtain apps (which no other mobile platform requires but Apple).
*apple sued for deceitful privacy settings* by badgolferman
<https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/c/-hMMpRS2saA>

Nonetheless, the use model people I know who never put their personal data
on the Internet is to store sensitive data in an encrypted file container.

That sensitive data is then available to you on your mobile device without
the onus of the FaceID gimmicks and other onerous whole-phone protection
schemes (which, I would agree you need if you do indeed live in the slums).
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Ant

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Nov 12, 2022, 8:24:08 PM11/12/22
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In misc.phone.mobile.iphone Andy Burnelli <sp...@nospam.com> wrote:
> Ant wrote:

> >>> Also, is there a way to password protect specific albums (not the
> >>> default hidden album)?
> >
> >> only with a third party app.
> >
> > Thank you for the quick answers.

> Hi Ant,

> This free FOSS third-party app creates an encrypted container which you can
> then put any files or directories into (the type of file doesn't matter).
> Veracrypt <https://veracrypt.eu/en/Downloads.html>
> Windows, macOS, Linux, FreeBSD & RasberryPi

Thanks. I already use those in my computers.
...

> Here is VeraCrypt page for equivalent container software on mobile devices.
> <https://veracrypt.eu/en/Android%20%26%20iOS%20Support.html>

> *Android*
> EDS <http://sovworks.com/eds/>

> *iOS*
> Disk Decipher: <http://disk-decipher.hekkihek.nl/>

It doesn't connect from 2 different ISPs.


> Crypto Disks: <https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/crypto-disks-store-private/id889549308>

Not free and not high ratings.


> As you're well aware, I check all links before I post them, where
> I'm not sure why the Disk Decipher link above comes up blank for me.

I think that server is gone or something. hekkihek.nl doesn't even connect.
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Andy Burnelli

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Nov 12, 2022, 9:32:17 PM11/12/22
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Ant wrote:

>> This free FOSS third-party app creates an encrypted container which you can
>> then put any files or directories into (the type of file doesn't matter).
>> Veracrypt <https://veracrypt.eu/en/Downloads.html>
>> Windows, macOS, Linux, FreeBSD & RasberryPi
>
> Thanks. I already use those in my computers.

Hi Ant,
Great. It's nice when people can help each other and communicate here.

A thoughtfully heart-felt mutually beneficial conversation is possible
when people discuss the merits of their options when sharing files among
whatever common consumer computing platforms they use at home.

Personally, I find encrypted containers highly efficient because I don't
use passwords or other whole-device encryption on any of my computers.

It's great that you're well aware of the feature on the desktop OS's.

> It doesn't connect from 2 different ISPs.

Thanks for checking that, as I use full-time VPN and web proxies, so I
wasn't sure why I couldn't get to the iOS version recommended by EDS.

>> Crypto Disks: <https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/crypto-disks-store-private/id889549308>
>
> Not free and not high ratings.

The ratings are a bummer, but I would caution you anyway by saying I don't
think the free version of EDS is all that great either. I don't know if the
payware version is any better though - so it may just be the app itself.

That's too bad though if encrypted container apps are lousy on the mobile
devices because, by way of stark contrast, they work wonderfully on
desktops (as you seem to be well aware) whether macOS, Linux or Win10.

On Windows, for example, I tap a shortcut and enter the password, and
voila, disk drive X: and Y: and Z: suddenly open up before my eyes.

I slide stuff into them as needed (medical, financial, personal), and I
slide stuff out of them as needed, and they eject themselves automatically
after a set time of inactivity (or I can manually eject them at will).

I even have a killswitch of sorts, that ejects them en masse, which is part
of a larger killswitch that kills all running software and networks, in
case of a virus or ransomware warning (which hasn't needed to be run, yet).
<https://groups.google.com/g/alt.comp.freeware/c/5yMnlyud-Fo/m/FIvbqfL9AQAJ>
This shortcut will mount more than one and open them up for convenience:
TARGET = %comspec% /c VeraCrypt.exe /volume file1.ext /letter M /auto /quit /explore & VeraCrypt.exe /volume file2.ext /letter N /auto /quit /explore
And this shortcut will dismount all mounted encrypted containers:
TARGET = VeraCrypt.exe /dismount /force

You need to use a Windows trick to pin such shortcuts to the taskbar.
<https://i.postimg.cc/g2yNftw0/scrcpy15.jpg> Trick to pin batch shortcut

>> As you're well aware, I check all links before I post them, where
>> I'm not sure why the Disk Decipher link above comes up blank for me.
>
> I think that server is gone or something. hekkihek.nl doesn't even connect.

Thanks for checking out that hekkihek.nl link, where I just dived a bit
deeper and found that even the Android app link has some issues just now.

These work for me when I turn off VPN and proxy services:
<https://veracrypt.eu/en/Android%20%26%20iOS%20Support.html>
<https://apps.apple.com/us/app/crypto-disks-store-private/id889549308>
<https://disk-decipher.app/>
<https://apps.apple.com/us/app/disk-decipher/id516538625>
<https://sovworks.com/eds/>

These do not work for me under those same circumstances:
<https://disk-decipher.hekkihek.nl/>
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sovworks.eds.android>
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sovworks.edslite>

While you're on iOS, I'm on both Android and iOS and I just recently added
EDS Lite to my replacement T-Mobile Galaxy A32-5G, but I used my Windows
archives to do that so I didn't even need to look on the net for the app.
<https://i.postimg.cc/bN875p8b/apk01.jpg> 1600 APKs extracted onto Windows

It turns out that I didn't check the links deeply enough for you, although
I do realize you're not on Android, but I try to be balanced in both OSs.
<https://play.google.com/store/search?q=eds+lite&c=apps>

I can't find EDS Lite or EDS payware anymore on the Google Play Store
repository, which means the Veracrypt page may be woefully out of date.

Luckily one huge difference I hope Steve has added to his document on the
huge differences between mobile operating systems is that the FOSS Google
Play Store clients automatically save the zip installer upon installation.
<https://i.postimg.cc/Z5kdD2rg/aurora04.jpg> Autosave upon installation

Such that you can almost always use an older free apps on _any_ Android
device of the same or similar version of operating system. Unfortunately,
this isn't possible for iOS, presumably because Apple inserts a tracker
into each and every download from the iOS App Store (much to my chagrin).

In summary, especially since you're well aware of encrypted file containers
(which work on all platforms), one option to store files safely on your
mobile device without needing to put personal files on the Internet, is to
make use of portable encrypted file containers, which do work on all
platforms - but - which are "harder" to find for both mobile platforms.

I apologize for the old links at the Veracrypt web site, as I haven't
needed to download anything off the app store in many years since my
archives already have 1,600 apps that I use on every new phone setup.

Normally, my phone is mirrored onto my Windows desktop and the entire phone
is mounted automatically over Wi-Fi as a drive letter such that I have
plenty of ways to just doubleclick on any zip installer to install.
<https://i.postimg.cc/wvsbcNBz/scrcpy05.jpg> Drag APK from Windows

So I was unaware that EDS & EDS Lite appear to be defunct on Google Play
Store repository (for reasons currently unknown to me at this time).

Thanks for your civil discussion, where I am mixing desktop and mobile
platforms in this conversation, and where I admire that you are aware
of portable encrypted containers, as I find them rather useful myself.
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Andy Burnelli

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Nov 16, 2022, 1:08:00 AM11/16/22
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Ant wrote:

> is there a way to password protect specific albums

Hi Ant,

Here's an update on the process of sharing encrypted file containers
between your desktop (macOS, Windows, or Linux) and the mobile device.

Below are twenty screenshots showing the general purpose solution I ran
on Android (which works with macOS, Windows, or Linux desktops also).
<https://i.postimg.cc/xjgzJCh0/eds01.jpg> EDS Lite exFAT module installed
<https://i.postimg.cc/ZqkBtyBL/eds02.jpg> EDS opens Veracrypt container
<https://i.postimg.cc/vBhcVqPP/eds03.jpg> Desktop & mobile portability
<https://i.postimg.cc/QthFVGq9/eds04.jpg> It's a general purpose solution
<https://i.postimg.cc/bwSDBRJJ/eds05.jpg> Closing the container on Android

While iOS is almost always brain dead when it comes to useful utilities,
you can do the same on iOS except that it will cost you money (AFAIK).

Otherwise, if you discount the loss of privacy entailed on iOS because
Apple tracks all your app usage and the payment alone causes another loss
of privacy that doesn't happen on _any_ other platform but iOS, it's the
same thing otherwise.

Hope this helps as the whole goal is to be able to do _anything_ you want.
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